On the last day of the Summit, we spent the full meeting talking about the collaboration and deliverables for the funding agencies. That does not qualify as research. Late in the day I had a revelation about the relationship between ethnography and science. They are related, but not really the same. Some of the conclusions of ethnography have a factual or hypothesis-generating character, but ethnographic results do not really live in the same domain as scientific results. That is no knock on ethnography! Ethnographers can ask questions that we don't even know how to start to ask quantitatively.